As the quest specifically deals with his father's past and eventual fate, Jack is unable to start or continue the side-mission "I Know You". In a close hug, he apologizes to John for failing to maintain the ranch. It should be a long mission. I think that if ww1 happened in the red dead universe, and Jack was still alive and out of prison after the events of rdr1, he would probably be drafted in 1918. The two hear wolves. She may have been killed by someone seeking revenge against John, particularly associates of the gang members he hunted down in the first game. Calm down, anything can happen in a fan fiction, Jack became a murderer like his father, he killed a man that deserved it but he's still a killer. Unlocks Its pretty sad, everything happened so fast and before he knew it he was all alone. Well with the most recent audio glitch we've been hearing around with an older Jack Marston we very well might get a story dlc involving Jack after he killed Ross. John's father also hated the English for what they did to his great-grandparents, although he never met them. But by 1923 things began to take a turn as not only was Jack's gang life slowly fadingt and not wanting to his gang the end up like dutch's gang so made plans to leave as the new york crime family was also falling apart and was starting to kill of the associates one by one. I don't know if this question has been asked before on this sub, so forgive me if it has. Given how important Abigail wasto the story of bothRed Dead Redemptiongames, the character deserves more closure. The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jacks final age at just 19. He ends up becoming very well known through West Elizabeth and parts of New Austin Jack gets into contact with Pronghorn Ranch in 1916. Van der Linde gang (c. 1899)Marston family Some thought he died in the Great War, others thought he perished due to the cholera outbreak that would be Jack Marston's age by Red Dead Redemption's epilogue is relatively easy to discern, at least if one remembers a key piece of info from RDR2. But if we are thinking about this from a "positive" perspective, Jack probably got himself a woman and is a famous author or some cheesy happy ending stuff along those lines. His son followed a different path. The player can use this mission to acquire the Semi-auto Shotgun for free; simply fail the duel until Ross has the Semi-auto Shotgun equipped, then kill him and loot the gun. A horse killer? Game Jack was all about revenge even though revenge killed his father, he goes down the same path and dies, like poetry. Unless he was REALLY lucky, Jack probably died of some disease or died in one of the World Wars, that is if he volunteered or was drafted. His grief and loneliness appear to have developed a severe case of depression and self-loathing. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. WebGameplay. The way you put it a soldier is a murderer then? The following description is therefore not contiguous with the preceding section on Red Dead Redemption. I could see the government in the red dead universe catching up to him for his crimes and giving him an option of hanging or serving. Jack refuses, takes a rifle, and helps John and Uncle in their fight against the lawmen. Even if he did find out about that, he would've forgotten it by 1914.. so logically there's no way Jack can apply the name "Tacitus killgore" for himself. Every weapon, horse, safehouse, Honor, Fame, bounty, and outfit that John had is carried over to Jack. When referring to Abigail and Johns relationship, Dutch says, We all had her, but he married her. Its also been heavily implied that Jack may not be Johns biological son. Abigail Marston was an important side character in both of the Red Dead Redemptiongames. The Red Dead Redemption series doesn't shed a lot of light on how Abigail Marston died, but there are various theories trying to explain it. The known family history only traces back up to John's father, who wasborn on the boat from Scotland to New York. That'd be really nice, but if he's forced to have to good karma in order to live, then wouldn't that take away some of the "freedom" in the game? He probably wouldnt join the US Army given that they killed his father. During the cutscene, the agent points Jack to the south of Lake Don Julio; furthermore, the newspaper includes a story indicating that Edgar is living near the lake. After John untied them both, the Marston family embraces. 1914- Jack is now a full grown adult his age is 19, he now has a mustache and a goatee he has taken his father's hat. She's injured during the shootout but survives and stays around on the Marston ranch long enough for John and Abigail to get married and for herself to heal up. WebBut Dutch also left John for dead during the train robbery and John knows it. Jack sees his father for the first time after being kidnapped by the agency. He turns around and walks away, before deciding to track down Ross, in vengeance for his family. Now a nineteen-year-old gunslinger and the spitting image of his father with similar skill in combat, Jack decides to hunt down his father's killer in revenge. He was a smart kid so he probably went and did something else. Jack and Ross, preparing for a final showdown. John Marston, Jr. also known as Jack Marston, is a character in the Red Dead series who appears as the deuteragonist of Red Dead Redemption. Died in 1881. Being the only surviving member of the Marston family, the rest of Jack's life is unknown. John eventually succeeds in this task and reunites with his family at the ranch. Sometime after helping both Abigail and Uncle, John takes time with teaching Jack hunting and skinning. The first event would've been to leave Micah in jail to get executed. In Blackwater, Jack approaches an agent called Howard Sawicki, who he tricks into telling him of Edgar Ross' whereabouts. Afterwards, it is unclear whether Jack finally settled down after Ross death or continued a life of crime. I think realistically the best choice is to keep going backwards, show us the gang young, and we can see characters like Davey, learn about Hosea's relationship (I can't remember her name) and Arthur's time with Mary. arrived. As the child of John and Abigail, Jack lived his early years around the various members of the Van der Linde gang such as Bill Williamson, Javier Escuella, Hosea Matthews, Arthur Morgan, Uncle, and even Dutch van der Linde, among others. After reading stories, as well as hearing stories from his father, Jack decides to ride to Tall Trees, and hunt a bear, in order to prove that he is no longer a kid. Though her husband John Marston dies at the end of the original Red Dead Redemption, Abigail and their son Jack manage to escape the Pinkertons and Great in cities with paved roads, and since their goddamn solid steal, they're tanks. Dennis Reynolds might be responsible for his death though. He rents a room there, going by Tacitus Kilgore, grows a beard, and starts Bounty Hunting. Were jack decides to put his life on the western front, The first world war has come to a close, also with Jack's military service ending with being able to return back to the United States. Jack appears as a supporting character in Undead Nightmare; he is first shown sitting with his mother at the Marston residence, reading a book while discussing swearing with Abigail. Rewards Lake Don Julio The two begin to talk about their future as ranchers, as well about the future of technology. I always imagined Jack getting caught and hung, I know its grim but I feel its realistic and matches Jacks character. Once John returns, he and Abigail discuss Uncle. Though her husband John Marston dies at the end of the originalRed Dead Redemption, Abigail and their son Jack manage to escape the Pinkertons and government forces, leading players to believe that both of them are safe momentarily. For those of you who think he would be a doughboy that not likely because he hates the gov. Finally, John and Rufus ride to the top of Nekoti Rock, finding an injured Jack hiding behind a rock. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. im sure theres some word that only poets and thesaureses know that describes how looking and seeing all the ideas for RDR2 DLC's, but its brutal man. If the player uses a high powered weapon in the duel, Ross may be sent flying back into the river, causing his body to become impossible to loot unless the player pushes it out of the water by slowly walking into it. 1907- Jack is now a young teenager. Jack comes out the house and checks Abigail, only to be beaten as well. Theplotkicks off in 1899,and it's established thatJack is roughly 4, having spent some of his formative years with the gang. But on a stroll through blackwater, he is harassed yet again but reaches his breaking point where beats a loan shark to death and shoots the other. John Marston (father) Abigail Marston (mother) Rufus (dog) Unidentified sister dead Unnamed paternal grandfather dead Unnamed paternal grandmother dead From there he embraces his outlaw past from his father and uncle, Arthur and john while also embracing a John Dillinger personality. Outside of his talent with a gun (which personally i like to think hes not quite as good as John or Arthur, even though he can use DeadEye) Jack always had his head in a book. Abigail cries and hug her fallen loved one, but Jack calms her down. In my head-canon he got imprisoned and eventually drafted into World War I. Turning Jack's life into a video game would make it a violent and tragic affair. The game assumes that players will easily accept Abigail died of unknown causes, but it, unfortunately, lost a good opportunity to expand on the circumstances leading up to this characters death. Male If I were to really cross my fingers, it would be the same map with 3 new cities. Uncle is shot dead during the assault, and after continuing to fight off the soldiers, Marston sends Jack and Abigail away while allowing himself to be gunned down by the firing squad outside, sacrificing himself so that they can be free. But maybe that's me wishing all the suffering Arthur and John went through wasn't for nothing. Also im pretty late to the party, just finished Red dead redemption. On a smaller scale of course. Before this Stranger will appear on the world map, the player must complete: After speaking with Howard Sawicki, the player must: The mission starts when the player talks to Agent Howard Sawicki in Blackwater, indicated by the "'?" I think Jack has lived a rancher life and sometime he has gone chasing after bounties. As Jack's past catches up to him, his criminal record attracts the attention of the new head of the FBI, Archer Fordham. Jack Marstonmission strand:"The Last EnemyThat Shall Be Destroyed" Arthur sacrificed himself so John and his family could have a better life and in the end it was for nothing. He is now a fully grown adult, aged 19, and sports a mustache and a goatee. I know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. or sadly he likely killed himself from depression. Jack Marston Player choice. He leads a small group that roams around the country, but always makes it across state lines and gets around jurisdiction. While confronting Ross, Jack mentions that he saw him kill. 1911 He eventually succeeds in killing Ross in a duel, and walks away, with the realization that he's about to become an outlaw, the very thing his parents tried to prevent him from being. Next:Red Dead Redemption 2's Massive Map Is A Problem For RDR3, How Old Jack Marston Is At The End Of Red Dead Redemption, What Red Dead Revolver's Main Character Could Be Doing In RDR3, Red Dead Redemption 2's Massive Map Is A Problem For RDR3, How To Solve The Key Of Admittance Puzzle In Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield Could Be The Xbox Exclusive That Saves The Series X, Hogwarts Legacy: 10 Best Cloaks You Need To Find ASAP. RDR2 caps it off nicely. Unnamed female prostitute - Mother of John. John was therefore left in the care of his father, who was "blinded in a bar fight, south of Chicago" and later died. I think hed be an outlaw, to be honest - I cant see what else he would do and work for bounty hunters would be getting increasingly scarce to the point it would soon disappear as a career (this is 1914 now, not really the Wild West anymore). Suddenly. The links above will perform a search for the content that matches this page's name. Mount I like this whole story.. but one thing I don't like in this is the fact that Jack starts calling himself "Tacitus killgore".. that was Arthur's alternate name and Jack had no idea that Arthur had been using that name in 1899.. They won't do that. https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI_ain%E2%80%99t_goin%E2%80%99_nowhere_old_man!%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:E_D_G_A_R_R_O_S_S.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CI%E2%80%99m_sure_your_husband_will_be_just_fine%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_knew_my_father%E2%80%9D.ogg, https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E2%80%9CYou_shot_him_like_a_dog!%E2%80%9D.ogg. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease After John returns, he asks Jack about the book he's reading; an Aztec man who apparently must kill his people who have been infected by a virus or plague, which happens to foreshadow the events of the Undead Nightmare. Mr. Marston - Father of John, of Scottish descent. Despite only three years passing, Jack appears decidedly older than 19, although this can be chalked up to the stress of his parent's deaths and his rough lifestyle. With jack heading to California to settle down and become a famous arthur. A picture of the three Marston family members in Red Dead Redemption 2 (c. 1899): John, Abigail, and their son Jack. The next day, Jack and his father visit MacFarlane's Ranch, owned by John's friends Drew and Bonnie MacFarlane, to purchase cattle from them. In gta 5 if you're in Franklin's house near his bookshelf there is a book that has Jack Marston's name on it. Both Jack and Abigail turn into undead, but are tied up with a rope by John, who bring them into his and Abigail's room, before taking his gear and riding to find a cure. Personally, I think after Jack killed Ross, his life spiraled, and he went into a deep depression. Jack skinning an animal for the first time, Jack and his father embrace for the last time, Jack Marston injured after trying to kill a bear by himself, Jack attempting to teach himself how to shoot, Jack Marston reading a book in the family room, Jack Marston joking with his mother while reading a book, Jack Marston describing the book he's reading to his father, Jack Marston running outside when his father calls for him, Jack and Abigail rising after succumbing to the infection, An infected Jack tied up in his parents bedroom with a plate of food, Jack and John trying to help a poisoned Rufus in the mission ". The Marston family is the family of John Marston, prominent in Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2. Given by John says that, "If you ever spoke to him, you'd think he only ate haggis and wore a kilt", implying that he either had a heavy accent or knew his culture very well. Jack and Abigail's status afterwards is unknown. I think he might of just did nothing but work on the farm not being able to get over killing him and either just die old and alone or surrounded by loving family. During The "Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed" the player is able to dismount the horse and freely roam as Jack Marston. I like to think he became a wartime journalist and married a nice European girl afterward. An easter egg (although not confirmed that GTA and RDR are in the same world) in GTA V reveals that after almost becoming an outlaw, Jack returns to his normal life, a life separate from his fathers, a life his family wanted all along. Height: isn't stated in the game or the Wikia, but Jack is believed However, Marston eventually ran away and, at some point later, met Dutch van der Linde, who took him in and saved him from a hanging in Chicago when he was 12 and served as a father figure to him alongside Hosea Matthews. He wouldn't be "anything", he has no legacy like John. He apparently underwent a number of surgeries to transition to a cat. Etc. Like his father, Jack can wear any outfits that are unlocked, however none except the default Cowboy Outfit actually change in appearance. WebIn 1911, Jack and his family, were kidnapped by federal agent Edgar Ross, who ordered John to kill his former brother-in-arms. I get the feeling that if we see more of jack in the next red dead, were going to see him in WW1 France. Jack and Abigail standing next to John's grave. I think Jack used his interest in literature to become a writer, using Arthur/Johns journal, and embellished them with campfire stories Uncle used to tell Jack. /r/RedDeadMysteries is dedicated to documenting, explaining and uncovering unusual content found within the Red Dead series. John takes a horse and his dog, Rufus, and heads to Tall Trees. By already this time, Jack has begun to read books. Howard Sawicki The epic storyline of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2spans roughly 15 years, focusing in part on Jack Marston, leading many to wonder about his age. In comparison, during the original Red Dead Redemption, after control switches to Jack, youll still find townspeople mentioning John Marston by name. Though this is speculation, I think it makes the most sense rather than a full on remake of RDR 1. After scaring off the wolves, John asks Jack to stay out trouble. Jack gets his own take on the game's default outfit, the Cowboy Outfit, which sees him wearing a beige jacket. It was this love and grief that led him to hunt down Edgar Ross three years after his father's death, determined to avenge the Marstons even at the cost of his own innocence and potentially his future. The sacrifice does however allow Marston's wife and son to escape, and they eventually return to bury him, marking his grave with stones and a wooden cross. Jack confronts the retired agent about his part in John's death, but Ross simply dismisses John's actions as his own fault. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. Jack gets a similar haircut like John's, also using the same hat John use's in Red Dead Redemption, and Jack also has scars after trying and failing to hunt a bear to prove he is no longer a small boy. Thats why its surprising that the game simply glosses over Abigails death when it moves on to the epilogue. Affiliations He goes on to become a John Dillinger type. He wears a blue coat, a red scarf, and beige pants. After being untied, Jack and Abigail embrace John. Jack taking vengeance on Ross has the implications that Jack didn't go on to live a normal, moral life like his parents wanted. If Jack has a low Honor level, he will in turn have a sadistic, belligerent attitude during gameplay and often makes dark jokes whenever he kills a horse, an outlaw or a woman, but also shows signs of disgust at himself and questions his own actions. But once caught instead of going start to prison he is instead given an ultimatum serve his prison sentence for 55 years or Serve his country in the war in Europe on the French frontlines until the war is over. Press J to jump to the feed. Joins the military and becomes a writer after his tour. Nationality There is, of course, still a big chanceAbigail Marston died another way. At times, he appeared to be somewhat timid and was often mild-mannered when speaking to his family or friends. /r/RedDeadRedemption - A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind the Grand Theft Auto series. The two go on a hunting trip with Rufus and take down a pair of elk. Events of Red Dead Redemption 2 After fourteen years of being an outlaw in the Van der Linde gang, Progression Red Dead Redemption is a Western-themed action-adventure game played from a third-person perspective.The player controls John Marston and completes missionslinear scenarios with set objectivesto progress through the story; in the game's epilogue, the player controls John's son Jack. Jack is first playable during the final sequence of the mission "The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed"; he is limited to only riding his horseback to the Marston Ranch, and it is the only time where his 16 years-old self is controlled by the player. JackJackieJackie Boy (? Jack's maximum dead eye is shorter than his father's by 10 seconds equating to 20 seconds instead of John's 30. Despite the mutual struggle to understand each other, Jack shared a very close bond with John. In 1911, John is forced to take up the role of gunslinger once again when Edgar Ross and Archer Fordham find him at his ranch and force him to hunt down and capture or kill his former gang members by capturing his son and wife. They all loved their country. He also cared deeply for his mother Abigail, who worried about Jack's condition after the two were released from the Bureau control. WebWhat do you think happens to Jack after Rdr1 (Not based on easter eggs. Some thought he died in the Great War, others thought he perished due to the cholera outbreak that would be happening around that time (they point to his cough). NEXT:Best Video Game Westerns That AREN'T Red Dead Redemption Games. While reading a book about a man who tries to avenge his father, Jack is taken by John to hunt an elk. The latter indicates Ross' location. 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